![]() I'd say a woman proportioned like the latter has a dozen or more points on the BMI scale and upward of a hundred pounds on her. Diana Sirokai is not exactly the Venus of Willendorf. It's more than a little bizarre how broadly you're using the term "obese" here. If it were just Rubens, you might have a point there. There were a few cultures in which female obesity was seen as desirable, primarily in Africa. So, the statement that obesity was often seen as aesthetically pleasing in the past is simply not true. You should also note that people who made those are extinct now - when Europe was colonized by first farmers, those hunter gatherers largely ceased to exist and their contribution to European genome was slim - because they and utter majority of their progeny died. Even the pre-historic venus figurines don't invariably depict obese women. Yes, women in Rubens' paintings were kind of flabby, but these were a bit of an exception and the vast majority of art from the same era shows body types that can't be described as fat. So sad. In many cultures and during a very long period of time in western history, her figure would have been considered ideal. On the Curvy Kate website, she says that she was bullied because of her body and told she was ugly and fat.
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